Breakdown - A Gravity Forms Podcast

[00:00:00] Though we are gonna kick things off of what the definition of conversational forms is.

[00:00:04] What is conversational forms? I wish I could do a show of hands if anyone has used it before. but, I can't. It's the limit of technology these days. again, q and a towards the end. Leave your questions as we go. What is conversational forms? At first, I thought to myself, could I have a conversation with my gravity form?

[00:00:27] Could I actually have a conversation with it? I see Adam shaking his head. No, you can't have a conversation with it. Not yet. Anyway, what is conversational forms? I'll kick it over to Adam first. Yeah, so it's a question we get quite a lot. like I. I've been doing user interviews last week or so, and it's a question that keeps coming up.

[00:00:46] like, have you checked out the conversational forms add-on yet? what do you think about it? And people say, at, we haven't actually looked at it, and so what is it? And they say, things like, is it an AI bot? Is it a, something like that. And it's not. It's, it's basically a way to interact with a form.

[00:01:05] That presents one question at a time, a more interactive feel, highly, movement. There's movement on the page, there's interactions with, a, like a slide or, we'll, we'll go over it and look at it, but it's, it's basically a way to get more of that conversational feel. engaging users and hopefully increasing people's conversion rates.

[00:01:28] At least that's what, other people who are have been doing conversational forms for a long time have, could have sort of said that that's what it does. So the quick science behind that is user gets to a form, they see 15 questions and they go, oh my God, I don't have time. To fill out this entire form.

[00:01:48] Very useful. If you are in, the marketing, the sales world, lead gen, user surveys, stuff like that, you don't want to show. Sometimes you just don't wanna show everyone this lengthy form. You want to get them into this conversation, maybe increase that, that probability of completing the form.

[00:02:06] Yep. And when, when we launch this officially, we're gonna have some. Nice looking, themes around this. I saw some mockups from our designers. is that gonna go in the full, full release version, that Melissa was working on? So how, how it'll work from the beginning is that, so we'll have just like the templates library on gravity forms.com.

[00:02:28] You'll be able to go look at what templates we've created. so we've basically done the same sort of thing where you can go ahead and look at, conversational forms, how they've been,they've added a background, an image, things like that. But, from the get-go, you won't be able to like directly import it.

[00:02:46] but it's more of like an inspirational gallery. Right. Got it. maybe in the future we'll look at, integrating that more into the product so you can actually, import one. but right now it's just sort of more of like an, like what can you do with gra gravity forms, [00:03:00] conversational forms so you can kind of look at what we can do versus our competitors, I would say.

[00:03:05] Fantastic. Yeah. Fantastic. There's some questions rolling in already. Thanks everyone for dropping in those questions. Again, we'll hit those questions during the q and a Morgan. Anything from you on what conversational forms is. It's okay if yes or no, if you have something, if you want to add to that conversation.

[00:03:21] I mean, I guess the simplest thing I always tell people is it's like type forms. Type forms I think kind of pioneered this conversational form thing. And a lot of people don't know what a conversational form is, but we've all used type forms. So conversational forms is a form that works, like type forms where you see one question at a time.

[00:03:41] Yeah, we debated saying the old T word. Yeah. in the green room before we went live. It's, it's okay. Listen, I, I think it's fantastic. conversational forms. All right, Adam, we're gonna start with your slides, then we'll get into a demonstration of what conversational looks, forms, looks like. Now, if you wanna prepare your slides or do you want me to spin them up on the monitor?

[00:04:01] I've never done a slight using Google Slides, so I can definitely give it a go. Hold on. slight show. No, it just made it giant. Maybe you could do it on your, your end cuz. I'm, I'm truck. For those of you who have, have joined, this is our, this is a, this is an alpha version of webinars. Definitely. We're gonna be, we're gonna wait, improve this.

[00:04:20] you're looking at the lead engineering team of webinars, right here. So let me go ahead and share my screen. So maybe, maybe skip to, we kind of covered, what is a conversational form already. So, we are now onto like, how conversational forms differ from competitors. That should say how com, how our conversational forms differs from.

[00:04:42] Our, our competitors. So, I'm not gonna really name what our competitors, who they are, but it's pretty obvious who they are. but from, from the get-go, that was kind of, our mission to, in, to have parody in terms of the, maybe the look of it. Feel a lot like that T word that we just talked about a minute ago.

[00:05:05] as other competitors in the, in the WordPress space don't really look like, tight forms, so they, they've pioneered the idea of, conversational forms and we wanted to deliver that aesthetic look. So you'll, you'll see that ours look quite similar to that versus what our competitors have done, which is.

[00:05:26] Not as much that way. so that's all I would probably say on the how it differs. It differs in terms of the WordPress landscape, ours is, ours is, I would say, much more graphically intensive versus others. So hopefully, and the, and of course the particular advantage as well, is, and I don't want to get myself into the hot seat here, but I'm, I'm glad I have the two of you on the show with me right now, is it's going to connect up to the suite of add-ons that we have too.

[00:05:53] Right. Which is a, a massive advantage, uh mm-hmm. That we have over, the WordPress form landscape is a lot of [00:06:00] the stuff that you might think you want to do with conversational forms. You can pipe it through, a lot of our add-ons. Zappier is the one that always goes through my head, cuz it's probably like the most.

[00:06:08] Use that on that I, that I personally use. but you know, there's any kind of, any range of, of add-ons that we have. I'm assuming, we can connect conversational forms up to, to unlock that magic. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah, ba basically anything that you can do with a normal, a normal gravity form, you'll be able to do with a conversational form as well.

[00:06:30] So, massive range of functionality there, which leads us right into use cases. good segue there. Adam, first use case come to mind for you with conversational forms. definitely lead generation, I would say like a lead generation form. I can share an example of that, but yeah, being able to capture this leads more effectively by guiding, customers through that conversational flow.

[00:06:54] Leading hopefully to that con,Completion rate, higher completion rate, is one of the areas that, so can I sh can I go ahead and share as well? Maybe if I Yeah, let's go ahead. Go right into, let's showing off your screen, see if this works. Let me stop my screen share and hopefully that passes it over to you.

[00:07:11] You, yeah, we'll have to put it up, me up on stage, I think, or however this works. Ah, yes. One second.

[00:07:22] So, there you go. So we've got, this is like, imagine you're a, a digital marketing agency and you want to attract Yeah. More leads to your, to your agency. you could use conversational forms to, entice people. Right. so it's not just, you don't have to just do input. You could do like a, a text.

[00:07:43] Section like this, for example, and then get more into the, into the nitty gritty of like what it is that you're, asking people. I do see a, an issue here with the colors not quite picking up yet. I don't know if I'm using the latest version, but, so that's good beta feedback there. so yeah, you would, and then you can customize the next question based on like inserting, merge tax as well, so you could have that kind of conversational feel to it.

[00:08:09] That's right, Morgan. Like you should be able to do that. Like, so the previous answer that I just, no, no. We can't, we don't have live merch tags. Nope. Oh, yes. That's, that's a commonly requested feature for Gravity Forms Core too. And we, we don't have it yet, but we will someday. Okay. So we don't have Live mer tag form.

[00:08:26] Don't, don't, don't. Before we move on to that, Morgan Morgan, can you define what a live merch tag is for somebody listening who's never heard that? So a live merch tag would be like, if your first question is, what is your name? And you type in your name, and then the second question could say, hi. Your name, how are you today?

[00:08:43] that is a commonly requested feature and we just, we don't have that ability yet. Okay. Well there, I was thinking that we we could do that. I'm glad this is in that alpha, webinar. yeah. but that would be great. once we can deliver that [00:09:00] be also Sunday it's, it's, it's on our roadmap. Mm-hmm. So, yeah.

[00:09:05] So then as you can see as I'm going through this, this form, I, it's given me that pro progress bar that we talked about, and we can also go back and forth between the questions using the I, the, these icons here. there is some keyboard navigation, right? Like, we can, we can press enter. Are there any other things that we can do at the moment with,Tab will take you through the form shift tab will take you backwards through the form.

[00:09:30] Right? So yeah, so there, there's an example of, of a, a conversational form as a lead generation, and then you can customize that last, part as well. Like the confirma Is this, sorry. Yeah, this is the confirmation page. We, you can input like a image and some text as well. So, Probably took way too much time up on that one.

[00:09:53] But let me just show you a couple more examples of like the, the sort of the graphics. See, as you can see, it's very, he heavy on the graphic side of things, right? so here's another one, kind of the same feel,but then we, as we get into other ones that we've created as, as an example, You can really get kind of creative with the, with obviously the graphics and stuff like that.

[00:10:14] there's this event registration one that we, that I like the look, the look of as well. so yeah, there's many different use cases for, for conversational forms. It's fantastic. So it's this, this distraction free almost, experience for the user, right? We're not getting bogged down by a million questions on the screen, getting the person into the flow.

[00:10:35] They're clicking through it. Mm-hmm. and it's just another way that a, again, a lot of the competition, a lot of users have been asking us, to build this kind of a similar experience. And, I think at the end of the day, everyone will be happy with, what we've built here. Adam, do you wanna show.

[00:10:50] The behind the scenes of conversational forms, what this looks like. That's, that's probably what most people will want, want to see. I see, see a few questions that I'll ask at the end as well. but let, let me, let me take you over too, actually, oh. Did I share the right one? Hold on, let me, okay. I might have to re-share or, oh, it says share this tab instead.

[00:11:11] Okay. So do you see gravity forms like the back end? Now? We do. Yep. Okay, great. Yep. So, I've already gone ahead and, this, this one I'm just, I'm just. Came up with this idea just a few minutes ago. let's say I'm a, a lawn care business perhaps, or something like that, and I want to take bookings, but I, don't want to build a whole website out, for example.

[00:11:30] So first of all, I need to enable the feature. So you'd obviously go ahead and build your form as you would any form. Right now putting the fields in. And then once you've enabled, the add-on conversational forms that's in beta, you'll, you'll be presented with this, option to enable conversational form mode.

[00:11:52] The first thing that is required, is to put a permit link. So it's, I'm not sure exactly if it overrides something that you [00:12:00] already have, but if basically you, you need to put a unique URL in. So I'm gonna put in. long care booking or something along with, hopefully I haven't already done that already.

[00:12:13] So then I would save it. It'll save, it'll, it'll check, it'll throw an error if the URL already exists, so you're safe. Oh, okay. Perfect. That's great. So then you can, we didn't look at too much on those demos that I was looking, but you can actually change the layout as well. So, a lot, that was one of the things that we wanted to do.

[00:12:31] Just like type form. Sorry, I used that name again. we can change the look of it. So you can have the image to the right hand side or left hand side. so I'm just gonna leave it in the middle there and I'm gonna, I don't know if you actually have to set a color, but if you, let's say if you're just doing an image in the back end, that, that's what I was kind of hoping to do was, like an image.

[00:12:54] And, let me see what we got here. The water sprinkler perhaps, and maybe the accent colors green. And I'll just turn up the, image. Brightness that basically allows you to put like a dark layer on top if, if you've got white text above it. So, I'm gonna put white text there. and then you can have what is called a welcome screen.

[00:13:17] So like, like we showed a minute ago where at the, at the start, it's, it has an introduction. This is basically what you're doing here is putting that introductory like,call to action or something. So I'm gonna put a headline of Transform You Along with Ease, and then I give it a description as well.

[00:13:36] and then I guess I'll just put my button as start and maybe I have a logo again. So I'll just put up a. A gardening logo or tractor or whatever. I don't know how this is gonna look. By the way, this might look terrible. you can also, enable disabled the, the footer. So you don't have to have, is that right?

[00:13:57] Like, if you don't enable the progress bar, then it won't show, you just progress. The footer will, the footer will still be there. It just won't have the little progress bar. Progress bar, right? So I do like the progress bar, so I'm gonna. Just leave it. Make sure you put in that required alternate text for the image.

[00:14:15] Scroll up. Oh, okay. Yep. So field is required. We're gonna make that not required because this is annoying. All right. I I, I'm just, we're just going with whatever here. So let's, let's, hopefully, let's pray that this works and, live demos are, they're great. I'm going to, so if I, if I click on this button here, it will open up in a separate tab, and then I'll have to share that one as well.

[00:14:39] Or can I just, yeah, I think I have to do that, and then I'll click this. So do you see it now, like the actual form that I just created? Okay, cool. So yeah, it doesn't, doesn't look too good. Like I probably u used a better logo, that has a transparent background perhaps. but as you can see, it's, it's asking for my name.

[00:14:57] I'd probably want to add a bit more darkness [00:15:00] to the image cuz it's, it's, it's not that text, it's not really coming through too well. so make sure when you're billing one of these that is accessible for the visitors on your site. and then you just, progress and you can make these,required.

[00:15:13] ob obviously like any form. so how Morgan, how does it work again, like, so if it's required, does it, and then you press the continued button, will it just remind you that you need to. To do it or does it on the submit? No, anytime there's a validation error on a field, whether it's because it's required and you didn't fill it out or because it's like an email address and you didn't put in a valid email address, it won't let you continue through the form until the field you're on has validated correctly, so.

[00:15:42] Right. Okay. You should never have errors from previous fields when you get to the end of the form. Okay. So that's good to know. And I did test it with some of the other add-ons, and it seems to be working pretty well, like generally. are there any add-ons that we're still working on? Like with the, some of the payment gateways still have some issues, but we're working on fixing those.

[00:16:06] Right. Cool. so yeah, there's basically a little demo of what you can do. hopefully that gives you a little, sort of look at what the options are. I have two things I just, I just wanted to ask real quick. well first I just wanted to state, how did you know that if I ever got out of the tech business, I wanted to start a lawn care business?

[00:16:27] Because that's really, ultimately, at the end of the day, all I want to do, I just want to cut somebody's grass. I don't want to figure out bits and bites anymore. but second, Morgan, for you, I think the biggest change that a lot of folks are going to, going to experience now with conversational forms versus traditional forms is this, this need to set up a.

[00:16:47] I guess what I'll call a WordPress slug at the top. Mm-hmm. Why is that? Why, why are we declaring a, a, a slug or URL at the top of this form versus a traditional form you just created and, and you just put in the block or short code into your post? Because at, at this point, conversational forms only work on their own page.

[00:17:08] So it's basically like you're creating a landing page that is just a conversational form. You, you can't embed a conversational form in inside a site, like in a, in a post or a page. Like, well, you, you can embed the same form in a post or a page. You can use it in, in a page or as a conversational form, but it will only show up as a conversational form on that conversational form page.

[00:17:33] So it, like I said, it's basically like creating a landing page. Fantastic. And, And I'll say this, as a non-developer, what implications does that have for a developer who might want to style the, the conversational form? Is there a drastic difference styling these conversational forms versus a traditional form?

[00:17:53] So a lot of why we did this, of putting it on its own page is so that you have total control over the conversational form [00:18:00] styling and that your. You're not worrying about like incorporating the theme header and footer. This is entirely standalone. It doesn't have the theme header and footer and sidebar and, and all that other stuff.

[00:18:12] It is just the form. That's the only thing you see on the page, for developers. Just so you know that that page is. Actually still loading all of the theme styles. So, like it will inherit some of the font styles from the theme. And if you have like, really aggressive, really specific CSS styles in your theme, those will show up on the form.

[00:18:33] but in general, we've tried to do like a, a pretty aggressive reset so that the form will look pretty different from the rest of the site, so that you have total control over the design of that form page. That's fantastic stuff. lots of q and a. Oh, lots of questions coming in. We did want to keep this around half hour, 35 minutes.

[00:18:55] Adam, anything else you wanna show off before we just start answering some of these questions? Let me un unmute myself. Yeah, I think it'd be good to get into the questions cuz there's quite a few coming in and, there would, there's a couple things I I wanna show as we get through the questions as well.

[00:19:10] Sure. Thing I'm gonna start with, well first of all everyone, thanks for, dropping in your questions. I only see Facebook user here in Streamy Yard. On my right hand side, I see Robert Roy, who apparently owns stock in Gravity Forms because he has a million questions coming through. Fantastic. Robert, thanks for sending all of these questions through.

[00:19:29] let's start with Robert's first question, which is, can we see a mobile view? And since I have your screen up right now, Adam, yeah, let's a you the overview me, see if I can do one. Yeah, so we did spend quite a bit of time making sure it looks great on, on mobile.

[00:19:50] I think Adam just left. He just closed his monitor. I mean, closed, closed his browser. All right. Well that was, Robert, I hope you enjoy mobile. We don't have mobile. That's why Adam left. the, the perfect way to eject from a live demo. alright, let me see while Adam scoops himself back up. let's take a look.

[00:20:12] Do, do, do, do you see, we'll answer, we will answer this question potentially. Do you see a potential for adding, Something like chat gbt slash bot ai to conversational forms. I'd say anything is possible on that front, with gravity forms. I'm interested just to see, and, and, and Morgan, you might not have a definitive answer, I don't think it's on our roadmap.

[00:20:33] However, I am interested to see maybe what the third party plugin ecosystem brings, to that arena. And this is, This is definitely something we're, we're, we're watching and we're thinking about, and we're, we're playing with, at this point, we don't, the, the whole. Ai conversational AI thing is so new right now that it, we don't quite feel confident enough to start building something because in, two months the [00:21:00] landscape is gonna look completely different.

[00:21:02] but we are, we are watching it and thinking about it, and there is, there is potential down the road. We just kind of wanna wait until things stabilize a little bit. Fantastic. another question, comes through, will conversational forms work with major builders? I e divvy Elementor oxygen? I fancy probably saying yes to that one, but you know, you never know.

[00:21:22] Tread lightly. Well, this is, this is, again, because conversational forms load on their own page with their own perma link, they're, they kind of happen outside of whatever theme you're using. So, In that sense, yes, they are compatible with all builders, but in the sense of, I mean, again, you can't embed a conversational form in the middle of a page.

[00:21:40] So, your theme kind of doesn't matter. Your builder kind of doesn't matter when you're using a conversational form. Fantastic. Adam, welcome. I totally clicked up. Oh goodness. This is great. Adam, do you want to boot up again and show, how much did you, did you see it last time? Did you see, like, we saw nothing.

[00:22:01] You were quickly left the room. Okay. Apologies. I'm doing the right thing now. let me see. Okay, here we go. So, yeah, the question was, it doesn't look great on mobile. And I would say yes, it does look great on mobile. We've, we spent a long time making sure that it looks good. I dunno if there's a better way of showing what it looks on mobile, but this is the only way I can.

[00:22:25] I think right now is, is that we just, changed the ports, the view port. but yeah, like we've done a good job to,make sure all the, the, the typography and everything looks the way it should on, on a mobile screen. there was, there was some early feedback from a, a couple beta testers that when you clicked on an input.

[00:22:44] for example, like a text input. It would, it would zoom in, all in and basically kind of move the screen size. So was that one of the things that we fixed? Morgan? Yep. Like it was Yep. It's not, it's not doing that anymore. So it it's, it's good on mobile now. Yep. So yeah, we've, we've done quite a bit of extent extensive testing on, on mobile and yeah, it should, it should just, hold up pretty well on mobile.

[00:23:11] Fantastic. I want to combine maybe two questions here for the interest of time. One question. was the, sorry, I'm looking at Facebook. Are you going to enable the ability to embed conversational forms in the future? that would seem to limit its usefulness otherwise? That's a question from David Bird.

[00:23:29] I don't think that one came in. Oh yeah, it came in right here. Are you going to enable the ability to embed a conversational form in the future and. I think Robert had asked earlier, what's the selling point of conversational forms? I think if you looked at this, or excuse me, not the, not the, conversational forms.

[00:23:46] It was, hold on. I got it. Somewhere key differences between conversational forms and just doing a multi-page form, right? So in this world of how we perceive [00:24:00] conversational forms, especially when we look at the competition i e type form, we're looking at a form experience that, takes the whole screen.

[00:24:08] It's one question at a time. I think in most cases you can interact with your keyboard and you can design this experience that feels a little bit more, let's say immersive. When we think about embedding a conversational form, one might think, well, that might be counterintuitive to the experience, might be a fair statement.

[00:24:29] Where if you just have this like. Grandly designed. That's a terrible phrase. Mm-hmm. Grandly designed conversational form in the middle of a post, eh, it kind of loses it effectiveness. However, we do have this multi-page form feature. What, what do we all think the difference is between like embedding a form versus conversational forms versus, Hey, maybe we just use the multi-page to do something like that.

[00:24:55] Personally, I think they're two separate things. They're two separate, Ideas. Like one is a lead form, which is your website with a very, step, multi-step form. Whereas this, like you said, it's much more immersive. You're, you're distraction free, you're completely in that page, and you're not getting bogged down with all the menu and all the, the other stuff that you're worried about.

[00:25:21] and I, I see many businesses in my local area using conversational forms. for registration. Like, you're at, you're at like a actual conference and you want people to register for your product. They don't want to see all your, your top banner and your ads and all that stuff when they're just trying to register.

[00:25:38] They just want to see the form, the fields and that's it, and get through it quickly. So, kids drop off things that I, I, my kid, like, they have a registration. They do the same thing. It's conversational forms, but, so there's definitely a need for it. I think we might, look at,a lead generation add on at some point in the future as well.

[00:25:58] But that, that's, I think they're two separate things. I, I, I know that they, they kind of. Meet in the middle, kind of like a little bit, but I, I personally think that it's very different to,those other like, lead generation forms. Yeah. Sure. Morgan, anything else on that one? No, I, I think just worth emphasizing that we've got all these design settings for conversational form, and this would look really weird if you put it in the middle of a normal page on your website.

[00:26:27] the, the whole point is this distraction free thing with this pretty design, sort of brings up the conversation of, the best workflow for,putting in air quotes, putting in, or call to action for conversational form. And now in the sort of Gutenberg era, you might have a blog post that links out to a conversational form or con a call to action.

[00:26:50] You might just use the, the built-in block button, right? As might be the way you sort of. Put in here quotes, put in your conversational [00:27:00] form as a call to action, right? So if you're a marketer, you're building a blog post lead gen, sales gen, something like that. You just use the traditional block button as your call to action, button and then just link to the conversational form.

[00:27:13] It's probably how I would play that out versus like, Hey, just embed this, this form here. Mm-hmm. Very cool. let's try to find some questions. Da da. I got a couple here, unless you go for it. For it. You've got a few, more on the conditional logic side of things that people have been asking about. Are there any limitations on like, additional logic, branching, branching logic?

[00:27:40] Not sure what that means. Any complex calculations, or condition. Yeah. So is there any limitations around conditional logic? Maybe that's a question. basically, if you can do it, the, our goal is if there's something you can do with a normal gravity form, you can do it in a conversational form. right now, the one exception that we're having trouble dealing with is if you have a page that is hidden.

[00:28:04] Or that a page that has conditional logic that also has fields on the page that have conditional logic, that very specific scenario might not work. but aside from that, anything you can do with conditional logic on a normal form will work in a conversational form. And same thing with, with calculations, all, all that stuff, if you can do it in a normal form, it'll work in conversational forms too.

[00:28:30] Okay, so what I'm hearing is that basically most things work. Mm-hmm. apart from maybe the payment gateway, some of them still need some work and, and that's just, that's because we're still in beta, but Right. All the payment gateways will work. Okay. Very cool. That's, that's all I think I had. unless you got any more, Matt?

[00:28:51] one, one quick one here. How many templates will go, will you go live with, coming out of beta templates will be three. Correct. Like those layout templates that we sh. No seeing, seeing nos. Well, so we, we don't really have templates for conversational forms. We have, we have the templates for just building a form with, the template of all your form fields.

[00:29:16] There are those three layout options for conversational forms, but at this point, we don't have plans to have, like, go download this design and put it in your form. But if that's something people want, let us know. If, if we get a lot of requests for that, we'll definitely do it. I think it would, I think it would be good.

[00:29:32] Yeah. Overall I think, yeah. But, I think what we're trying to do with that template library that will be on graphic forms.com, is just being able to show you like the power of our add-on so that people can, use their imagination, power, it could, how they can build it for themselves.

[00:29:49] As long as you've got an image, a background, a, a logo you can create. I mean, you could really, I, I, I made one just a minute ago, but I'm sure you could make some pretty terrible [00:30:00] mistakes and, and make them look pretty bad. Honestly, they look nice without a background image too, especially because you can pick your background color.

[00:30:07] but even just like straight out of the box without messing with any of the design settings, they look nice. Awesome stuff. I think that's it. I think that's, we're gonna wrap it up. We're about two minutes off the mark from our projected 35 minutes. So thanks everyone for, joining the first beta group.

[00:30:27] Conversation. Well, it's gonna be more than conversational forms in the future, but our first webinar for the beta group, again, if you're just hopping in now and you're like, Hey, I missed everything, I think there'll be a recording in Facebook. It'll save it there, but I'm also going to, pull it down, upload it somewhere on the interwebs and then email it out to everyone on the email list.

[00:30:45] Robert Roy, thanks for all the questions. Somebody else had asked a question, but now it is no longer on my screen so I can't see it. my call to action breakdown, a Gravity Forms podcast. Go to gravity forms.com/breakdown. You can listen to me chat with other folks around the Gravity Forms ecosystem every two weeks.

[00:31:02] episode went out today, May 30th, gravity Forms podcast breakdown. Adam Morgan, thanks so much and Morgan's cat, thanks for hanging out today. It was fantastic. It was great. Adam, anywhere you want people be to Yeah, that was, I was just gonna say like, how can we get people more involved? Obviously go to gravity forums.com.

[00:31:24] Go download the a on know if you haven't, it's in the section called Beta. Is that what it's called? Beta? I think it's in a, it's in a little section release or something. But on the downloads page there's a section for it. Yeah. So go there, install it, works with the latest version of Gravity Forms. And if you have feedback for us, That's what the Facebook group is for right now.

[00:31:44] So go go to the Facebook group and say, Hey, this doesn't work, or this doesn't look great. Or, maybe you've got a, a device that we haven't tested on yet, like perhaps you could give us some feedback on, on it. so, but we're, we're coming sort of. Closer and closer to the end. in terms of releasing it, I'm thinking I'm, I'm not sure if we have it a date yet, but we're looking to get it out.

[00:32:07] so the more, more feedback we get, the better will it will be, and it'll be,much better in the end. So for everyone. Yep. This is how I play Adam off the stage right here, just bringing some music. I'm like, okay. Wrap it up, Adam. No, I'm just kidding everybody. Thanks for hanging out today. again, look for this video to go out into your, into the newsletter, and you can watch it again.

[00:32:27] Leave us any feedback you have. Thanks for watching. See you in the next one.